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P.O. Box 245
(101 West Sea Way)
Lavallette, New Jersey 08735

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(732) 793-3798

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Member Survey - New Clubhouse - Emails to Clubhouse Committee - Page 3 of 3

I have made over five visits to the township of Toms River and have been in contact with FEMA- I have copies of the deed and drawings for the land in question from the town and have spoken to the town Engineer. Without going into all of the details that I have discovered- I would say that there are many questions and concerns that need to be resolved before we move forward. I am going to join the clubhouse committee to help prevent a disaster from occurring. With proper planning and transparence to the membership, this could eventually be a good thing. Let’s just slow down and make sure we know what we are doing. Measure twice cut once is just common sense.

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I would like to make an informed decision about the Ocean Beach and Bay Club Clubhouse. I expect the Board of Trustees and the Clubhouse Committee to provide factual answers to the following questions:  
1. How much would it cost to FLOOD PROFF the existing Clubhouse?
2. What is the cost to raise the existing Clubhouse to the minimum height required?
3. What is the cost to build a new Clubhouse, utilizing the existing footprint, to the minimum height required? I would also like a truthful explanation of the events that led to the Clubhouse receiving a “Substantially Damaged” letter.
I am also concerned about the new parking requirements. Has the Committee investigated the environmental impact of additional parking?

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Will the proposed plan to build a new clubhouse and associated increase in assessment be put to a vote for OB 3 members to decide whether to approve or disapprove? What are the asking prices for the lots for sale on Rt. 35 North? Specifically the current OB Club and the lot near E/W Flamingo Way? Thank you.

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I am disappointed to see that there is a new committee for the clubhouse since I volunteered to be on the old one. I was the only member who lived adjacent to the bay beach and was able to bring the perspective of that proximity. When I came from FL for the summer in mid-May, I made a point of watching the use of the bay beach and saw very little activity, as can be attested to by the lifeguards, Only when the rip tides closed the ocean beaches a few times were there more than a few people at the bay beach and clubhouse and playground. People will not sit in the sand or play on the playground if they can't use the bay beach for a cool refreshing dip or swim. So daytime activity is usually very limited. And we cannot plan to eliminate the jellyfish that cause the lack of bay beach use. And building a facility to house social activities for less than 6 months a year is also questionable at best, especially given the number of such already existing halls on the island with limited usage. So I guess that's why I'm not on the new committee. Understood. I agree with a facility to house the equipment for maintenance and lifeguards, but even moving the office is questionable since it may mean the addition of elevators to a raised building for handicapped, and more paving and auto access off Rt 35 into and out of the area. The other uses would probably not require raising the structure or paving. I realize that by having been labeled "significantly damaged" by Sandy there may be permit issues with other approaches, but before going down the road of possible $1000 per home expenses, we should be certain that the alternatives have all been thoroughly researched. If that's been done and the decision made, then lets begin. I again offer my support for the 5 months I'm here and by phone afterwards.

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Ob2 clubhouse , (on the bay!!) had about 6 feet of water was not 50%damaged. If you have a 2 story home in Lavallette and 5 feet of flood water and a 2 bedroom bungalow in OB with the same amount of water, the $100,000 deprecated OB has to be raised but the $200000 home with the same amount of water DOES NOT!! Seems like Toms River rules favor the more affluent people!!

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Club house is no longer an necessity. seldom used it in over 50 years as a member. Playground OK not club house

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Knock down the clubhouse. Done. Stop asking us for money.

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 I do not approve building a new club house

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Please know that I am very concerned to find out “our” one parking lot on 35N has been sold without a membership vote. This lot is used by many throughout the OB3 season by renters, friends, and family. It has prevented people from parking on our roads, which as you know is not allowed. If we don’t have parking lots for an overflow of cars, I’m sure security will be unnecessarily busy and taken away from more pressing matters. Again, this should have been voted on by our membership. I am also concerned regarding the building of a new club house. The majority of members, I understand, have not responded to the survey regarding our clubhouse and whether they use or do not use this facility. From what I have read there are many who are not in favor of a new clubhouse, much less a larger more costly one. I believe we need to address the building of a larger clubhouse at our Annual Membership Meeting in October. We need to vote, and not be told this is what will be built, like our parking lot being sold without a membership vote. I for one know members use the ocean beach more than the bay beach. I would also like to know who owns the clubhouse or land the clubhouse sits on if it’s not the membership. This would be extremely important regarding ownership and responsibility/liability of ownership. Without jumping head first into building a new larger clubhouse, I believe finding ways to pay for a new clubhouse, over time, would be a more prudent way for this to be approached. The cost of a new clubhouse will undoubtedly be a hardship to those on a fixed income, and those still paying for building or repairs after Sandy. I look forward to our Special Membership Meeting on September 28th, and deciding what is best for all members regarding the possible rebuilding of our clubhouse. There are a lot of questions which need to be answered. Thank you for taking time to read my letter at this special meeting.

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We definitely need a new club house. It will enhance OB111. Need member input as to cost and size.

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 Hi, I wanted to share some feedback on the rebuilding of the OB3 clubhouse. My family has been owners in OB2 or OB3 for 35+ years. We have owned in OB3 since 1995. The clubhouse was a key part of our summer at the shore this year. My 3-year-old Nick enjoyed the arts and crafts, skeeball, ice cream socials, tie dye, and other activities throughout the summer. We're looking forward to when Henry, our 4-month-old, can do the same. We have noticed a marked difference in the community engagement over the last two years. This is partly because we have children, but I think the general attitude has changed to become more positive. OB3 and its community is one of the many reasons we continue to own a home here. If we didn't want the community aspect, we could move somewhere else. An new, modern clubhouse will only stand to enhance the aspect of community among OB3 members. Please consider the following points when redesigning the clubhouse:
1. A raised structure so that a garage/workshop can be located on the ground level. This would effectively double the function space on the main level while keeping the same overall footprint.
2. A west-facing outdoor deck to replicate what the existing clubhouse allows. Large windows or sliding glass/accordion doors might be appropriate for the west wall.
3. Constructing the main function space with the maximum amount of flexibility. It should be wide open or maybe potentially dividable with paneled accordion doors.
4. Wiring and installing a sound system in the ceiling or walls that could support music, movies, or PA announcements.
5. Constructing a vestibule entrance that includes a door to a main office and a different door to the function space. This means that the main office could remain open while the function space is locked off or vice versa.
6. Digitizing paper records stored at the existing office so that the overall footprint of the office could be made smaller. This would allocate more space for the function area.
 7. Offering the main function area to serve special events (for a rental fee) including showers, birthday parties, small weddings, etc.
8. Expanding parking to make rentals more appealing--right now the parking wouldn't be able to accommodate a medium-sized event. If the parking was expanding along the east side of the property to the north it would allow for additional parking. Unfortunately, we will not be able to make the member meeting--we live in Boston with two young children. Please let me know if you have additional questions or need clarifications.

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I was reading the comments on the clubhouse and I love the idea of holding classes there such as yoga. Bring a yoga instructor in. A portion of the class fee could go to the club. Also I think you should allow the clubhouse to be rented out during the season for private parties during the day. Most people seem to go over there to see the sun set. It’s pretty quiet during the day hours when most people are at the beach. Look forward to hearing more about the plans.

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 Good day everyone The clubhouse according to previous information has to be replaced correct? You want input from members. I think we need the input from the board before this got to this point. Today is Sunday sept 8th. We have just missed a storm out at sea Dorian. We missed it, it did not come ashore and yet today two days later the clubhouse grounds are flooded today apparently from last nights high tide! It is a mess. I personally don’t understand how even raising it above flood prone area is going to accomplish what your dreams are. Can’t change Mother Nature or water table therefore common sense tells me we could have a clubhouse on stilts but underneath will still flood and can’t park. Look at rt 35! It floods several times a year and police divert traffic and close the road. The boat basin come up it smells ugly. So, let’s somehow figure a plan that allows us to follow whatever is deemed necessary according to our documents. Scale way back. Provide only enough to meet the needs of having a clubhouse if that is a legitimate requirement. Listen to the people. Take time slow down. We have to do what we have to do ok. Thank you for asking input.

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Ocean Beach Trustees, I first want to reiterate that I am disappointed you changed the date of the fall meeting with so little notice (and added the special meeting on a different weekend from the original fall meeting date). I block out my calendar for the biannual meetings as it's important to attend to receive crucial updates on our community. In addition, I emailed Brian Quinn after the spring meeting that I was interested in volunteering for the clubhouse committee and I never heard back. I remain interested in being included in this committee. I agree that a new, larger, raised clubhouse is much needed in our community! I envision a larger building than the existing one that's raised with an enclosed garage underneath for all the OB vehicles and equipment. Inside - at least 3 unisex bathrooms, large windows, porcelain floors, a full kitchen, high ceilings, and skylights. The clubhouse should have central air and heat so it can be used year round. Outside there would be a large patio overlooking the bay beach and wrapping around one side. I am excited for the possibility of being able to use the clubhouse for multiple activities including summer social activities (arts and crafts, paint and sip, pirate bingo, movie night), the biannual meetings, office space, and more. I look forward to helping you with this project!


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